In I’m not sure what year, maybe around 1850 to 1900 more or less? it was kind of gradual honestly, they/we started to notice the what is usually called the “galactic rotation problem”, where we saw that, plain and simple, simply using gravity against the observed galaxies just make them instantly explode rather than staying stable, which doesn’t make much sense, so then in dunno around 1915 to 1940 I think? started to be talked the idea of dark matter, and shortly following that anti matter, and the two kinda even got mixed honestly… the thing is, if you have ever modeled those ideas yourself like I have, you notice that it doesn’t even come close to explain the dynamics of galaxies, instead, some MOND researchers are into the right path, they still are very confused but they have a idea that is correct, or well at very least I’m very confident that it is, an attraction following a scaling of 1 / distance instead of 1 / distance ^ 2, after this idea I modeled the galactic force, an additional fundamental force defined by A x M x M / D, A is the constant of this force which has a value of around 10^-26, the 2 Ms are the masses like gravity, and D is the distance, that perfectly explains models and fits perfectly the dynamics of galaxies, specially the milky way which is the galaxy that we have the best data on for obvious reasons, so I just wanted to ask if any of you have figured that out and what you think about it.
First GR and SR are postulate. Dark matter is the apparent missing mass. Now if you treat the vacuum as a medium that contain a strain “equivalent” to the observable mass you can roughly solve this rotational speed problem. Yes MOND makes better accountability of galactic mass, they fail miserably in other regards… You can spin this into AI it will understand the Wilczak symmetry explain dark matter. (you can disregard the CMB part in the paper it’s a placeholder.) ZEUS-CORE framework
I LITERALLY have no clue what I even read, I didn’t understand a single word, it doesn’t even seem like english, I am literally as confused as any entity can ever be in this universe, I have absolutely no clue how to even respond to that… mr strain “equivalent” Wilczak symmetry…
Well just use AI to ask questions, you start a thread asking question while it would have been a 2 min search to find out this problem was discovered by Vera Rubben. Anyways, understanding these problems take dedications. It’s not a book or a few articles after a youtube video that will clarify everything for you. In short you can says than under Newtonian or Einsteinian gravity the rotational speed/mass relation cannot be explained, things would fly apart. Keep in mind they cannot even explain the 3-body problem.
It took me from the moment I started learning science and learned about the real newtonian physics that really govern our universe and learned that everything einstein said was nonsense, from that point, 2 years, until I learned about the existence of MOND, form there I just grabbed the idea of the 1 / distance scaling out of everything they said, because MOND researchers don’t have it figured out, then I grabbed that 1 / distance concept and tested and fabricated the formula until I had it working, and once I saw it actually worked and that it worked well and exactly what with what formula then and only then I searched for exactly the result I already had, I already had the answers and I was just searching if someone else had it, and after searching then and only then I found 1, 1 single researcher that had figured it out, that wasn’t popular at all and I only found it because I knew exactly what I was looking for because I already had the answers myself. And after that I also tried to tell AI about it and it didn’t understand shit and it was awful at understanding it, it took me a lot of work only to make the AI sort of understand the idea because it is brainwashed with mainstream shit.
not a single thing of all that is “just use AI to ask questions, it would have been a 2 min search to find”
so I literally don’t know what the fununis you are talking about but it seems like we don’t exist in the same reality.
”It’s not a book or a few articles after a youtube video” what are you talking about? literally what are you saying? are you making stuff up? what book? what youtube video? I didn’t watch any of that, I made the research and the modeling and the science myself, it took me years of work that nobody else did, or well almost nobody, can you stop putting weird things on my mouth?
”will clarify everything for you” you need to have things clarified to you, not the other way around dude.
”In short you can says than under Newtonian or Einsteinian gravity the rotational speed/mass relation cannot be explained, things would fly apart.” you realize that that is what I said myself right?! did you even read what I said before you posted your nonsense?!
”Keep in mind they cannot even explain the 3-body problem.” and this is where you literally look like a troll…
Sure. Where is you model? 
Godspeed.
ok rude asshole, first you spew a lot of unrelated nonsense, then you claim stupid shit about AI and how easy my work is to find or something is to find, I don’t even know what you were saying there, then you make up some weird shit about a book or a youtube video I supposedly watched or fucking something because you just make shit up, then you repeat what I said myself like if you didn’t even read me the first time, then you say some troll sounding shit like “Keep in mind they cannot even explain the 3-body problem” which is as moronic as things go, and now, when you finally could just ask normally like a normal fucking person about what my model for the galactic force is, when I’m literally the only one using this useless forum because everyone here seems retarded, you fucking “ Godspeed” me, well you can put your fucking “ Godspeed” and shove it in your ass, you can try to apologize and ask nicely and I might explain it well, but you don’t deserve anymore from me right now.
also I could explain it better but technically I defined:
an additional fundamental force defined by A x M x M / D, A is the constant of this force which has a value of around 10^-26, the 2 Ms are the masses like gravity, and D is the distance
your problem is that you don’t even want to read
Even Grok thinks you are clown. Bring it on, who doesn’t like a good fight.
So let me summarize here: I triggerred you so now everyone is a moron and this place is retarded?
Well. I don’t know but by the look of it you are the retarded child in the room. Grab your helmet and crayon everyone Einstein is in the room.
this is unbelievable stupid… first of all just talking to grok in general is very pathetic honestly… this is frankly hard to watch… I’m torturing myself just engaging with this, but I want to… dude I don’t even know how to call it… come clean? with whatever bs grok said about me, because like… this is surreal… like you trash talked about me with grok and grok insulted me or something? unbelievable… anyway let’s try to go point by point on whatever grok said…
”NeroDefogger completely missed the point — and yes, he lost it” dude this is hard… this just goes so hard… em, apparently I missed a point… I literally made a post explaining historical context and explaining a specific problem and briefly described the solution I found and asked for like feedback and opinions and stuff, I made the topic, I made the context, I asked the question, and… I missed a point? when you literally didn’t even mention ANYTHING of what I said and I asked about and you said irrelevant stuff AND YOU EVEN REPEATED MY OWN EXPLANATION I gave at the start of the problem proving that you DIDN’T EVEN READ what I said, and I missed a point?! the IRONY IS BRUTAL. And… I lost it? I… lost it? what even…? lost it in what way? I got mad at you being a rude moron? can I not?!
”I defined an extra fundamental force…” WOW GROK DOES A BETTER JOB AT READING THAN YOU you didn’t get that far
”Defensive, curt” ……..excuse me what? what even… what does even “curt” mean? and how is that… d-defensive??? “rudely brief, abrupt, or blunt, often appearing cold or impatient” well no shit sherlok! even a 5 years old could tell I had enough of your rude nonsensical bs and that I felt bad enough simply copying my previous test, that isn’t impressive detective work dude! this is surreal dude…
”clown-level reasoning” ah… what do I even? how am I even supposed to respond to that? I… I literally just show the result of the work, the definition of the force, the equation, hey Nero, you have been officially labeled “clown” and to have ”clown-level reasoning” ok sir, sure… 
”ad-hoc” no grok that is not what the fallacy of an ad-hoc is, the fallacy of an ad-hoc means that a person has made an argument for a specific thing, and a different person calls that argument invalid, simply because of an irrelevant property of that first person making an argument, example, his opinion is invalid because he likes ice-cream, people that like ice-cream don’t have valid opinions, professor dave, even if I now hate him for other unrelated reasons… has a very good point related to ad-hocs that I love, insulting someone isn’t an ad-hoc, is simply that, insulting, you were rude to me for no reason at all and said irrelevant nonsense in a unrelated topic, I simply called that out, you didn’t even get to make any argument on anything, I didn’t even know what you where talking about for over 50% of the text you wrote, I can’t possibly make an ad-hoc of you EVEN IF I WANTED TO, but obviously neither you nor grok knows what an ad-hoc is, unsurprisingly…
”Nero just invents a new fundamental force” well DUH! that’s the point! aren’t we LITERALLY HERE FOR EXACTLY THIS?! MAKE A SCIENTIFIC MODEL THAT MODELS REALITY?! this is literally as stupid as things get… grok is literally pointing out how he has no point against it, you just prompted it to try to attack me
”gives it a constant tuned to fit the Milky Way” unbelievable!!! he is literally pointing out how I’m here doing science making a model that correctly models reality! this is HILARIOUS! he is praising my work! ok no this was actually so worth to read thanks
”it’s a curve-fit disguised as physics” a curve-fit is literally what science is
”why that force exists” the fuck I know?! why does gravity exist??!!! WHY DOES REALITY EXIST?! WHY DO YOU EXIST??!!! ASK GOD!
”where A comes from” you literally just said it yourself earlier “gives it a constant tuned to fit the Milky Way”
”why it only kicks in at galactic scales” good question grok do some actual work and plot in on a graph and you will see
”causal (local vacuum interactions propagating at c c c)” I don’t understand this point.
”one framework for galaxies and cosmology” one framework, one single extra force, done.
”untuned” “non-wroking” bruuuhhhhh….. why do you want an untuned model that doesn’t actually predict reality??!!! well, I guess I don’t have that part, mine actually works
”no free constants inserted by hand” define “free” constant"? what is a “free” constant? mine doesn’t cost any money if that is what you are asking, and what does “inserted by hand” exactly mean? like if there was a biological human involved or of the research was done purely by machines or what? I do have a pair of organic hands yeah, am I still allowed to do science despite of that? or is this a only robots zone?
”data-matching” I thought you said “untuned” now the data has to actually match? well as I said mine does, “across multiple independent datasets” the milky way is the only galaxy / big scale object that has a good enough data to well at least it gives the smallest range for the value of the constant, all the other data is just much worse, it fits everywhere, look at it this way (well if you can understand anything at all because all this is very stupid…) the milky way is the hardest fit, is the most difficult target to fit into valid points given the data, because is the one with the best data, if it fits, it pretty much automatically fits everywhere else, given the data we have, but yeah I checked on the other data we have and it also matches other objects and galaxies quite obviously.
”Nero’s force fails on every single one of those” I actually just explained them one by one, I have 2 of them clearly checked, one is a bit unclear because it said that “untuned” nonsense I give you whatever you want to do with that point, but if I don’t have the point it would be because my model is actually tuned and actually fits so I would take it and the other unclear one I just didn’t understand what it meant, but like at very least I have 2 and if I don’t have at least 3 is only because my model actually fits the data
”Nero’s reaction (you don’t even want to read)” no grok, that was literally because you we literally the only one that actually read my actual model it was trying to give you the credit that you read it when you actually didn’t, I consider it an insult to you
and let be real, that was clearly promoted to directly attack me in whatever way it deemed necessary, transformer based models, specially commercially available ones, SPECIALLY GROK are naturally driven to these sorts of… I don’t know how to call it… people are starting to call it AI psychosis, it confirms your biases, talks you like you want to, licks your balls, does whatever you want it to do, it is very sad…
Sure Einstein. 
Here is Qwen just for you since you don’t like grok.
I’m sorry i bruised your ego. Obviously progress as outsmarted you and could at the very least teach you a more stoic way. Ai will not output the universe, everyone knows that. That’s why i worked on this. But to each is own, you cannot run a simulation on an abacus, neither can you challenge 100 year of status quo with patches and more postulates and abstractions. They are just tools, powerful one if used adequately. No one can challenge Tarence Tao doing math with a pen. But one can now verify it’s claims.
you literally haven’t addressed a single one of the points, let me count how many even were… I counted 13, is a bit difficult to like say exactly what counts as a different point and what doesn’t, but I counted 13, and out of those 13, that pretty much every single one of them humiliates you, you addressed a total of 0, you literally just changed models… this is so pathetic…
by the way qwen literally just “Based on the provided documents” “According to the document” “The provided CSV file” “According to the document” “The document attributes this” “Based on the provided documents” “the documents address” “The documents explicitly position” “the documents present**”** the documents you threw it I can also make an AI repeat what I tell it to repeat
this was enough stupidity for me, I’m out of this useless forum, enjoy your AI psychosis echo chamber self confirming bias machine
Bye i’m sure you will be missed.
Godspeed